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“Slay all infidels”..Wow,is Quran so violent???

Posted by Nimmy on September 28, 2008

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. (9:29)

But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war; but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and pay the jizya, then open the way for them (9:5)

 

I stumble upon these verses every now and then..So decided to have a seperate post,instead of messing the comment area,which doesn’t have much readability on its own..

As long as one continue to look at the verses in ISOLATION, they will continue to face this problem of violent Islam.Before we jump into war arena,tell me what will you and me do when we are in a battlefield,fighting for our people and our land..Of course,we are out there to win,bcoz a war happens only when doors of compromise is closed.But will we accompany our enemy to a safe  place if he asks for pardon in between the war?I doubdt how many of us will do that..Well,Allah orders muslims to do so..

  • “If one amongst the pagans ask thee for asylum,grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure that is because they are men without knowledge.”[Al-Qur’an 9:6]

 

Quran is not a book couriered to Prophet one fine morining..It was sent over 23 years,during various situations..Maybe there is a verse telling you to hold an umbrella ..It may have been sent down during a rainy season..That doesn’t mean you have to hold an umbrella throughout the year.

Surah Tawbah (Chapter 9) containing so called violent verses was revealed in 3 parts

  • The first discourse (vv. 1-37), was revealed in Zil-Qa’adah A. H. 9
  • The second discourse (vv., 38-72) was sent down in Rajab A. H.
  • The third discourse (vv. 73-I 29) was revealed on his return from the Campaign of Tabuk.

Chapter 9 was revealed when the Pagans broke the Treaty. To the Prophet , the enemies were numerous.  Just for believing in One Allah, muslims were tortured while they tortured none.  It was only after Hijarah, the permission For Qital (war) was given against those coming to oppress Muslims. So were some of the wars when people of Makkah came to attack Muslims. It was never to expand, never to take control of a territory or anything like that. It was the simple effort to preserve that light of Islam and to make it visible.

 

Prophet never wished a war with it’s people. It is done for a purpose. If it were for the land and people, Prophet would call himself as the King which they never wished or did, but their aim is to strive in order to fulfill that light.When Islam spread,The pagans of Makkah felt desperate and that was when the treaty was brokenIt is decisively clear that the war was against certain people who failed Muslims’ treaties and aided others against them. Are muslims to be blamed for fighting such people?

 

If Iran has a peace treaty with America and then Iran plots to attack America and they find out through the spies so you are telling me that America can’t break the treaty???

 

Wasn’t it Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) when he conquered Madina,He forgive every single non combatant??Even when some warriors did not fight,they were also not touched!!!

 

Take each of the verse and study the verses BEFORE and LATER to it.

 For example, the Chapter no. 9, is one chapter which is a series of instructions and responses TO the people (disbelievers) WHO violated the peace treatise with the Muslims. It also discusses people who had to consequently strive against such disbelievers, but who chose NOT to (because they were hypocrites).

In the same manner if you look at the verses in Ch. no. 2, you will find that it is for the people who persecuted the Muslims and DENIED them the right to Pilgrimage.In other places you will find that the fighting the disbelievers is to fight against aggression e.g. Why should you not fight the disbelievers in the way of God, when they oppress the weak, the women and children.So the apparent tone may sound to be inclined towards some sort of warmongering. But in actual it is meant ONLY against the aggressors OR the ones who violate the peace treatise.

 

Can I ask you something,if Allah ordered muslims to slay all non-muslims,

1.How come so many christians live in muslim countries??

2.Why there are 80% Non Muslims in India,even when India was ruled by muslims for over 400yrs??

3.Did u wake this morning knowing that there are 1500 million people in this world who want to kill u??

 

The whole of Quran is to be taken in its own context..The same verse applies true whenever such a similar situation happens.i.e.whenever muslims are attacked first,try to make peace/treaty..If they still keep pestering you,go defend yourself..That is what ALLAH says,atleast that is what i understand..

 

Whoever,may it be any individual or group of people,take the Quran and quote it to suit their motives,are only muslims for namesake..

 

What do you do when you go to a battlefield??Eat pizza with them??

 

  • Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not. (2:216)

Most people don’t like fighting, but sometimes it’s the only way to end agression. Maybe you’re so peaceful you won’t do anything to harm those that harm you. But this is even more harmful in the longrun.

 

People quote verses out of context and reference and that distorts the true meaning.However that is never the problem. The biggest problem is that some Muslims conveniently use these verses as and when it suits them. I know that the world rightly looks at what Muslims DO and not at what is in the Quran.By more and more people learning and understanding Islam in the right way,there will be pace on earth..

 

I talk ignoring the facts about oppression against muslims all over the world..Can anybody tell me which Holy book are they using to deal with such cruelity..Tell me what justification can one give for what is happening to women,children,economy of those muslim nations where ‘world police’ went to set things ’striaght’..Can you tell me why they needn’t justify thier acts,unlike we muslims who are set out to talk against sick acts of sick ‘muslims’..So,as far as I understand it,people around,irrespective of caste ,colour and creed are figting for reasons of their own..It is lame to find fault with Quran,bcoz Quran has been here for around more than 1400 years..Do you think muslims grew religious all of a sudden and decided to slay all non believers :-)

 

P.S:

Just to make it clear that those verses are meant for when in war alone,see these verses:

  • “…If anyone killed a person not in retaliation for murder or to spread mischief in the land, it would be as if he killed the whole of mankind. And (likewise) if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the whole of mankind”(Surah Al-Maaida 5:32)
  • “Allah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion, nor drove you out of your homes. Indeed, Allah loves those who deal with equity” (Surah Al-Mumtahinah 60:8)
  • “There is no compulsion in religion. The right path has indeed become distinct from the wrong. So whoever rejects false worship and believes in Allah, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allah is All Hearing, All Knowing”(Surah Al-Baqarah 2:256)

 

Anybody interested in having a quick overview rather than my long rant,can read this short article

 http://www.islamia.com/surah_009.htm

 

Read what Zakir Naik says about these verses

 

A few selected verses from the Qur’an are often misquoted to perpetuate the myth that Islam promotes violence, and exhorts its followers to kill those outside the pale of Islam.

1. Verse from Surah Taubah

The following verse from Surah Taubah is very often quoted by critics of Islam, to show that Islam promotes violence, bloodshed and brutality:

  • “Kill the mushriqeen (pagans, polytheists, kuffar) where ever you find them.”
    [Al-Qur’an 9:5]

2. Context of verse is during battlefield

Critics of Islam actually quote this verse out of context. In order to understand the context, we need to read from verse 1 of this surah. It says that there was a peace treaty between the Muslims and the Mushriqs (pagans) of Makkah. This treaty was violated by the Mushriqs of Makkah. A period of four months was given to the Mushriqs of Makkah to make amends. Otherwise war would be declared against them. Verse 5 of Surah Taubah says:

  • “But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is oft-forgiving, Most merciful.”[Al-Qur’an 9:5]

This verse is quoted during a battle.

3. Example of war between America and Vietnam

We know that America was once at war with Vietnam. Suppose the President of America or the General of the American Army told the American soldiers during the war: “Wherever you find the Vietnamese, kill them”. Today if I say that the American President said, “Wherever you find Vietnamese, kill them” without giving the context, I will make him sound like a butcher. But if I quote him in context, that he said it during a war, it will sound very logical, as he was trying to boost the morale of the American soldiers during the war.

4. Verse 9:5 quoted to boost morale of Muslims during battle

Similarly in Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 5 the Qur’an says, “Kill the Mushriqs where ever you find them”, during a battle to boost the morale of the Muslim soldiers. What the Qur’an is telling Muslim soldiers is, don’t be afraid during battle; wherever you find the enemies kill them.

5.Critics find it easy to skip frrom verse 5 to verse 7

6. Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 6 gives the answer

Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 6 gives the answer to the allegation that Islam promotes violence, brutality and bloodshed. It says:

  • “If one amongst the pagans ask thee for asylum,grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure that is because they are men without knowledge.”[Al-Qur’an 9:6]

The Qur’an not only says that a Mushriq seeking asylum during the battle should be granted refuge, but also that he should be escorted to a secure place. In the present international scenario, even a kind, peace-loving army General, during a battle, may let the enemy soldiers go free, if they want peace. But which army General will ever tell his soldiers, that if the enemy soldiers want peace during a battle, don’t just let them go free, but also escort them to a place of security?

This is exactly what Allah (swt) says in the Glorious Qur’an to promote peace in the world.

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“Court should fix definition of ‘terrorist’: Raj Thackeray”

Posted by Nimmy on September 28, 2008

Reacting to the Bombay High Court’s “terrorist” remark on him on the Marathi signboards issue, Maharashtra Navnirman Sena’s (MNS) chief Raj Thackeray on Saturday said the court should fix definition of “terrorist”.

Very funny..Raj is so upset and feel humiliated just by a reference by the Court..In fact,he has restored to violence many a times,even for the slightest reasons..But can I ask something?Doesn’t the same logic of humiliation and dignity hold true for all those guys/gals who are labelled TERRORISTS ,even before a charge sheet is written against them..We call them by ‘terrorists’ and not by their name..Even if they come out proved innocent,they still ought to live a life as an ‘alleged-terrorist’..Anybody thought of this anytime?Recently,we all diged into Arushi murder case,and we all cursed and ditched the father..Ha ha,now the father has come out proved innocent..How long will it take for him to erase the humility on this name ‘murderer’..Aren’t we humans expected to behave in a humane way..Why are we so inhumane?Shouldn’t we give them a chance to prove themselves,before they get labelled by us-the moral police..

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What is going wrong in my country??

Posted by Nimmy on September 27, 2008

11-year-old Santosh Kumar died and more than 18 people were injured when a crude bomb exploded at a crowded flower market at Mehrauli, south Delhi, close to the historic Qutub Minar, at 2.12pm on Saturday..

Why is this happening? Is our security system so weak,that any crappy person can plant a bomb ,in the capital city?

I am waiting for email-post investigation drama..Honestly,I am bored of it..When will somebody take actions,instead of fake encounters..Oh,who is there to take action..PM is busy eating dinner with Mr Bush..I wonder how important is nuclear deal over internal security.Who is bothered about nuclear power and energy crisis,when ones own life is at stake? Its time for Mr Home Minister to stop his fashion show and work on his department.Apart from all this,how can we expect police to take care of our petty lives,when they are busy guarding precious lives of VIPs.

Also,I think its high time that we ‘act’ instead of making blog posts and making comments..’Action’ doesn’t imply taking law in hands..There is much more beyond that.It is a true fact that there are many misguided youth out there..Isn’t there anything that you and me can do,as to make a change in the right direction?Politicians have 34832472389 black cats and so much of our tax to be spent over security,so nothing is going to happen to them.I guess its high time we stop looking up at government to do something,and instead focus on “What can you and me do?”,because our lives matters to us alone..

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How do I control my anger before it controls me..

Posted by Nimmy on September 27, 2008

I had always been an angry young lady..But I never(aleast in most cases) expressed it ,other than shutting myself in my room..But these days knowingly or unknowingly,I am reacting,and I don’t like the way it is..How do I tame myself because I am very much aware that words spoken and actions done cannot be taken back..

I may feel angry at a specific person,I may feel angry at some situation happened, I may be feeling angry simply by imagining events that may happen in near future or recalling events that happened in the past..As goes the proverb ‘An idle brain is a devil’s workshop’,I guess I have become more bad since when I started sitting simply at home..’Sitting simply’ doesn’t mean that all my laundry,cooking and housekeeping is done by robots..I do all those stuff,and I have hardly any time at hand and still I feel I am ’sitting simply’ and that thought makes me angry again..So,there is no reason,except a few hundred ones,that makes me angry..

Expressing anger is very easy..Earlier,it used to be protesting by not studying ,but reading comic books,hidden between text books,and I used to feel content that I protested and won against my mom who ask me to study..Times changed,and I expressed my anger by shutting myslef in my room and listening to music loudly ,when my family asked me to eat good food;again I felt content that the loud noice is a way out from others vocal sounds..Time changed and I started expressing anger by crying..Lots and lots of tears ending up in a local pool..Again,tear glands got bored and isn’t producing any more..Now I see myself behaving baddy by throwing spoons and my baby’s building blocks against wall,whenever I am angry..Eeewww..Why am I behaving like a lady in fish market..I don’t it every now and then..But then again,the interval is being narrowed down day by day..

Suppressing anger is not the way out..

Unexpressed anger can create other problems. It can lead to pathological expressions of anger, such as passive-aggressive behavior (getting back at people indirectly, without telling them why, rather than confronting them head-on) or a personality that seems perpetually cynical and hostile. People who are constantly putting others down, criticizing everything, and making cynical comments haven’t learned how to constructively express their anger. Not surprisingly, they aren’t likely to have many successful relationships.

So,what do I do??

I think I need to gain more spiritual strength..I need to pray regularly..Maybe I need some yoga..

Getting angry doesn’t make things alright,rather it worses matters..and I feel I sholuldn’t have done or said all that happened.When in an angry state of emotion,I jump into conlcusions,which may turn wrong later.I am more of a crappy person now,than I had been earlier..and this thought makes me angry again..

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Delhi Wakf Board to profile imams, muazzins

Posted by Nimmy on September 25, 2008

Amidst the wave of raids at madrasas, mosques and Muslim localities in the wake of terrorist bombings across the country and recently one in New Delhi, the Delhi Wakf Board has decided to compile all necessary information about Imams, Muazzins and students attached with board-run madrasas and mosques in the national capital.

The decision has been taken in view of investigations by security and intelligence agencies after every terrorist bombing. The programme is aimed at giving protection to these people and also to help agencies if needed.

Profile of every new imam, muazzin and student will be maintained. The information about those who are already working is with the board, he said.

It has been seen that immediately after a terrorist attack or bombing, imams, and students and teachers of madrasas come under police surveillance. Many are arrested and interrogated. Many were arrested after Jaipur serial blasts in May this year.

I see this as a positive move in the right direction..Isuues can only be solved collectively..and I believe faithful followers of religions,may ir be islam or hinduism or christianity,they can take care of each’s own community,thereby helping the government in bringing better social order..

Source:
http://www.twocircles.net/2008sep24/delhi_wakf_board_profile_imams_muazzins.html

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