…of Love and Love jihad

A: I hate readiing newspapers,but these days,I can’t take my head out of it..Its all so exciting news..

Me: Uh,what is it so exciting..All I read is about Maoists,VS,and lot of accidents,I don’t find them exciting.

A: Didn’t you read about Love Jihad?

Me: What is that?

A: It is an organisation that aims at converting girls through love  marriage is functioning in Kerala. Hundreds of girls have been converted by this organisation through this strategy.This organisation makes use of groups of boys belonging to a particular religious faith. They are taught how to lure girls coming from different religious persuasions. They have been ordered to leave those girls who do not fall into their “love trap” within two weeks. Further, the organisation orders their followers to marry them within a short period of six month and to have at least four childrenThe “Love Jihad” organisation provides their members with mobile phones, motor cycles, good clothing, etc. for more effective allurment of girls.

Me: What the heck…Are Hindu /Christian girls,and in this case educated ones in particular,so gullible that anybody who pass by can trap them using mobile phones and battas?

A: That’s not it in complete.Various organisations have started campaging against this Love Jihad.Didn’t you read that The Kerala Catholic Bishops’ Conference (KCBC), the umbrella organisation of all the bishops of the Catholic rites of Kerala, has started awareness campaigns to teach Christian girls and parents about the dangers of the “holy war of love” by certain Islamic groups. The council asks the parents to be on the alert at all times about the responses of their daughters, so that the danger of their falling into the Love Jehad trap could be avoided.Both Hindu and Christian girls are falling prey to the design. So we are cooperating with the VHP on tackling this. We will work together to whatever extent possible.

Me : But…

A : Wait,let me complete..Pramod Muthalik,the whole sale protector  of Hindu culture has said that Sri Ram Sena has,  braced itself to protect this country and their sisters and would soon start nation-wide agitations against this issue. Sri Ram Sena will, however, not take law in its hand; but if the Government prefers to ignore them, they will have no option but to follow the same path as done in ‘pub’ issue in Karnataka.

Me : OhI know how they handled the pub issue.. 🙄

A: They say that more than 4000 girls have been converted this way..

Me :What is the source?

A :Don’t ask unnecessary questions you silly girl..

Me : 🙄

A: So that you may know,Shri Rama Sene will launch a nation-wide `Save our daughters, save India’ campaign, beginning in Karnataka, against `love jihad’.

Me :Ha ha,I am glad that atleast some people are working towards the progressivness of Hindu and Christian girls..It is sad  that muslim girls are doomed and have nobody to help them when they marry out of caste..Ok,now stop overloading me with news bits ,and tell me in detail what this drama of love is all about.

A :Ok,I ‘ll explain..It all started with a love story of Silja Raj (23), a civil engineering graduate,who ran away with Ashkar,a taxi driver.She married him and later converted to Islam.Relatives enter the scene,they file complaint aginst Ashkar for kidnapping their daughter,the court intervenes,Silja says that the two were in love and that she came to him on her own and that she doesn’t want to go with her parents.But strangely,the court  asked the Karnataka DGP and IG to conduct investigation into the matter (including any role of ‘love jihad’) and to submit a report by November 13. The girl was asked to stay with her parents till that time.

Me: Hey hey,whatz that?She is 23,legally an adult..Then how can the court make an order infringing a human’s basic freedom and right to choose what she feels is right..

A : So? this world is  load of hypocrites..Feminists and others champions of human rights rant and shout about freedom of expression,freedom of choice bla bla bla..Where were they when this happened..I am sure atleast a majority would  not have missed this news.And moreover,we hear about Talibans and Talibanization of India etc etc etc every now and then. Tell me,how does it differ from a Taliban in this particular case?

Me :Thatz not true..The PUCL will question the decision of the High Court to send the woman of 23 back to her family despite her statement in court that she had willingly converted and was waiting to get married under the provisions of the Special Marriages Act.Reacting to the order, senior advocate Ravi Varma Kumar said that it violated Article 21 (of life and personal liberty) and Article 25 (of freedom of religion) of the Indian Constitution. He cited Lata Singh vs. State of Uttar Pradesh, 2006, in which the Supreme Court upheld the right of a person who had reached the age of majority to marry of his or her own choice..Also,Kirti Singh, a Supreme Court advocate and legal convener of the All India Democratic Women’s Association (AIDWA), described the case as “absolutely shocking”. She said the question of national security was being mixed up with the simple case of a girl exercising a choice guaranteed to her under the law of the land and Constitution. “The court has taken a patriarchal role,” she said, stating that it reflected intolerance for the girl’s choices.

 A: Duh,so what?Are you not a human being with common sense ? The Kerala high court had ordered probe over this matter.No organisation or movement in the name of ‘Love Jihad’ or ‘Romeo Jihad’ is functioning in Kerala, says the report submitted by Jacob Punnoose, Director General of Police, in the Kerala High Court yesterday. The report adds that no evidence has been found regarding the functioning of any such organisation dealing with forced conversion in the state..

Me: Ok,but the court is not really comfortable with that report..Let me add that like the Kerala police, the Dakshina Kannada police has also clarified that the rumour is baseless in the face of facts. The Hindu Janajagruti Samiti (HJS) claims that 3,000 Hindu girls are “missing” in Dakshina Kannada and 30,000 in the rest of the state. The police have clarified that till the end of September 2009, there were reports of 404 missing girls of whom the police had traced 332. By end October, only 57 women were still missing. Furthermore, the police have clarified that where women were missing because they had eloped, there were many cases of non-Hindus as well as Hindus eloping with Hindus.

The Dakshina Kannada police also explained that in one particular case, that of a 22-year-old girl who had been missing since June and who was rumoured to have fallen victim to this so-called “Love Jehad”, in fact, she had been murdered by a Hindu man, a serial killer who confessed to his crime.

A : Fine,let the second report come.Shall we not give them ,the muslim community atleast the margin of doubt until they are all proved jihadists and terrorists?

Me :Yes,I agree..Honestly speaking,I have no idea why is this an issue all of a sudden.And moreover,I find it very offenvive when somebody says that its easy to lure me with mobile phones and motor bikes.And moreover,who are these bishops and Sanghis to teach me how to love or love my life.How can they talk about something they have no idea about? And moreover,such is the credibility of these people..In Kerala, the Bharatiya Janata Party’s mouthpiece, Janmabhumi, sacked a woman journalist who got married to a Christian and converted. They claimed they could not employ a convert because they were against conversions.

A : 🙂

Me : Also,It is well known that atheists promote intercaste marriages openly and there is an association for them. Why isn’t VHP and Churcand h not taking care of those women ? Or is it that they are only bothered about women who run away with muslim men? Double standards uh?

A : 🙂

Me :All I have to say is,please do not mix simple human love and complicated religion.. ***sigh***

P.s: I am tired of reading Love Jihad related articles and blogposts…

I am really sorry for not replying to your comments..I am online after many many days..don’t ask me why..as there is somebody around this computer engineer,who don’t like meyself using computer.. Life is strange..JFs are a load of BS..Don’t ask me to elaborate..

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  1. O my god!
    I am just thrilled….
    many thing to fear 😦

  2. LOL, before it was only parents who were against love. Now the whole country is against the lovers ! Who said life is getting easier ! Hmmppph !!!

  3. Now the lovers have organisations to fear, more than their parents:)

  4. All this has got nothing to do with love…It’s all about ‘them’ getting ‘ours’…

  5. I dont Why ever should people be compelled to convert if they are in love in the first place.Love should not be bound by any boundary,religion or faith.

    Its absurd!

  6. Even i was surprised and shocked when i read this news in manorma.But seems Love jihad is a rumour spread by some news papers in kerala(According to DGP, though high court is not satisfied with his report)…..And also i read an article about the same in hindu(yeahh u referred the same here) and according to that also , it is a rumour.
    But what i feel is, if something like that is there ,it should be curbed from the root at any cost.
    please do not mix simple human love and complicated religion.. …very true…totaly agree with U.
    After all some one want sensational news to increase there TRP’s and circulation and someothers want to be in news always to survive.What to do , between them we sadha people are affected

    P.S : I planned to write about the same some time back.But as it is a controversial\sensitive topic , i was a bit scared to touch this topic.Glad u come up with such a superb post……between what is JFs are a load of BS 🙄

  7. This aint new… such pervert stories and probably people too exist since my college days.. !!

    such is the pessimism in my mind now a days that nothing tends to now surprise me.. !!

  8. So girls are so stupid as to be lured by all this stuff! Girls and women so gullible and stupid eh! I think it’s simply not possible! But as you said, religion and love should not be mixed.
    And I hope you come online more often Nimmy. Try and find ways to convince others.

  9. I am totally confused here sister… Not able understand much 😦

    • Nimmy
    • November 2nd, 2009

    @ Mahmud..:) Yes,many scary matters around you..

    @ Vimuuuu… lol,next time you speak with a girl outside your caste or subcaste or whatever,beware,moral police is watching you.. Maybe they won’t call a non-muslim a jihadist,but will label you something else 🙂

    @Renu..so true dear 🙂

    @Bones..I understand…As Deeps said,I don’t why religion should be a problem for people in love.. when these things matter,one must infer that love is not a plain or as beautiful as it seems to be in stories and movies..

    @Deeps…exactly dear.. See,this conversion thing is not something new..One of the couple may or maynot convert,most probably to the male part’s religion..Its been happening for a long time,but i wonder why ,inspite of police reports that such a conspiracy does not exist, they keep on saying that muslim men are busy trapping other girls..Sad,very sad that w whole communtiy is painted in blue..

    @Anish,i echo your thoughts.. Fopr them it is a matter of business,but for laymen,it is a matter of fear and self-esteem..No matter how many reports are going to come on how baseless this thing is,people will still ahve doubts in their mind and this will obviously affect the inter-faith relations as like in peaceful Kerala..As you rightly said,if this thing happens for real,they all should be executed for dirty conspiracy,sickos deserve treatments as like in Abu Ghuraib…But at the same time,it is proved wrong,those who shout “statistics”now should be punished..But will that happen..

    @Hitchy.. 🙂 yeah,life is getting more tough..Its sad that few people,may it be jihadists or the story writers,they are spoiling the harmony and peace that exists today..

    @Nita,exactly … If it is true,i pity those girls who ahve no idea of what they are falloing into and i wonder why no such “educated” girl is not daring enough to speak out and come out of the jihadist husband…and the last part..well,its getting more tough,but i hope this period will come to an end in a couple of months 🙂

    @kanagu..You don’t understand bcoz you are an innocent guy and can’t proceess complicated facts around you 🙂 Trsut me,if you don’t realize both sides of a story,whatever it is,people are going to take you for a ride 😦

    Good day to all

    The “love jihad” phenomenon – which may just be linked to a few religious-minded Romeos – could have been comical had it not deepened domestic hostility towards India’s Muslim minority. There are fears that the use of the word “jihad”, often interpreted as meaning holy war, may give extremist Hindu and Christian groups an excuse to justify attacks on Muslims.

    “Certain fundamentalist groups that have been carrying out vigilante attacks against inter-community couples for several years have now started using the ‘love jihad’ theory to justify their attacks,” a police official told The Hindu newspaper. He did not name the groups, but was probably referring to the Sri Ram Sene and the Bajrang Dal, which target women and religious minorities.

    Sri Ram Sene is now preparing for a nationwide campaign on the issue. Its leader, Pramod Mutalik, has said 150 party activists have been deployed in public places to keep an eye on “suspicious activities”. When a “love jihad” activity is identified, “it will be stopped then and there”, he said.

    Meanwhile, the Kerala Catholic Bishops Council has issued “love jihad” guidelines, calling on parents and schools to monitor children’s activities and discourage them from using mobile phones or spend long hours on the Internet. “Bringing up children the spiritual way is the best means to fight the love jihad,” said the Christian group.

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/KJ28Df05.html

  10. Good post Nimmy…

    Thanks for bringing more facts to light.

    A few points that I am still not clear on…

    Indian Express mentions that the DGP’s report suggested “The forces behind the move are suspected to be getting financial support from abroad.” Any more info on this?

    Also this report suggests that the High Court “expressed dissatisfaction over a report submitted by the Director-General of Police (DGP), Jacob Punnoose, on ‘Love Jihad’ wherein girls from other religious backgrounds were allegedly lured into marriage and converted to Islam…The court directed the DGP to produce the reports on the basis of which he had prepared the report, in a sealed cover, by November 11.” Any comments?

    And finally one request: can you please share your thoughts/comments on this post?
    http://satyameva-jayate.org/2009/04/12/talibanization-south-india/

    I welcome disagreement and counter-questions…so please do not feel shy to engage in a debate!

    Thanks.

      • Nimmy
      • November 3rd, 2009

      Hi Shantanu..I am glad that you came to my small world 🙂

      To answer your qstns,pls re-read the post..

      Me: Ok,but the court is not really comfortable with that report .

      A : Fine,let the second report come.Shall we not give them ,the muslim community atleast the margin of doubt until they are all proved jihadists and terrorists?

      As you rightly said,if this thing happens for real,they all should be executed for dirty conspiracy,sickos deserve treatments as like in Abu Ghuraib…But at the same time,it is proved wrong,those who shout “statistics”now should be punished..But will that happen..

      I am waiting for the second report Shantanu,so that issues will be more claer.. Kindly note that these is no case of me or sane people supporting such activities.. And yes,don’t start saying that “You are a typical muslim who practice Taqiyya ” 🙂

  11. Good post As more and more ppl realise that this so called ‘ jihad’ conspiracy is yet another attempt by communalists to divide ppl and is just fiction , the rumours will die down.

    ———-

    Ture,but let us not be judgemental. Maybe this is true,maybe it is wrong..Till then,let us all not make hasty conclusions..

    Charakan,the intersting inference of this Love Jihad is that not only beared-muslims are to be seen with supision,but also,all muslim guys with mobile phones and morot bikes are prospective jihadists.. What do you think this will ahve an affect in our life around?

    —- Nimmy

    • I have written a post on this. The truth I feel we already know. The Sangh Parivar propaganda is false. Now you should understand one thing.Communalist of all colors do not depend on truths but on rumours .

    • Shailaja
    • November 3rd, 2009

    Nimmy!
    So funny!
    But its true.
    Have you lived in Ponnani?
    Bye,
    Shailaja

  12. I am waiting for the second report

    Sounds sensible…

    And yes,don’t start saying that “You are a typical muslim who practice Taqiyya ” 🙂

    Good one!

    Hope you get some time to read and comment on the link to my post (above)
    Thanks

  13. Jobless people, those who waste so much of time fighting over religions…shouldn’t people move on?

  14. I read up on it after some discussions – I found Charakan’s post to be objective and very well written in this regard.

    I think once the girls are made aware of the possibility, it should be left to them. Special Marriage Act also allows two people to marry anybody from any religion without needing to convert anyway. It seems girls not only carry the honor and culture on their shoulders, they also have the responsibility of safe guarding their religions now.

    • Nimmy
    • November 6th, 2009

    @shailaja..Welcome here 🙂 As i said,maybe this allegation is true,maybe it is false..My point is not to brand your classmate as a love jihadist,before he is proved so..

    @Shantanu..I always follow your blog..Thanks a ton for inviting me,as i am honoured..I read the psot,will share my thougths soon..Thanks for coming..I am honoured..

    @Vishesh, 🙂 I agree,but they keep discussing again again and again that i felt the need to speak the ‘other side’..

    @IHM,you are right..Charakan’s post was a perfect one..I read it lately..To put it lightly,this issue is not a matter of love or religion,but about girls,their freedom of choices…

    Good day to all..

  15. Read this too Nimmy, I agree with this view.

    http://communalism.blogspot.com/2009/11/myth-of-love-jihad.html

    • HASH
    • December 14th, 2009

    hats off nimmy,,.u r really great..brave..u said it…”the king is naked “

  1. November 13th, 2009

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