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Dar al-Aman and Kaffirs..

Honestly speaking,I am hearing this word Dar al Aman for the first time.Lately,there have been news on Islamic seminary Darul Uloom Deoband issuing fatwas that India is a Dar al-Aman and that there shouldn’t be any jihad in India and that Hindus should not be reffered to as Kaffirs..


Islamic seminary Darul Uloom Deoband on Sunday said it regarded India as Dar al-Aman or a “Muslim-friendly country”. It ceased to be Dar al-Harb or hostile for Muslims with the end of British rule. “How can a country where you choose your own government be Dar al-Harb?” the seminary’s vice-rector Abdul Khaleque Madrasi said, adding: “If VHP has doubts, a fatwa can be issued, provided the organisation follows the prescribed procedure for obtaining a religious edict.”


In Islamic theology, geographical territories are often described as Dar al-Harb, Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Aman. The distinctions have been crucial in Muslim thought and action, said Qari Mohammed Usman, one of Darul’s senior-most teachers.


Dar al-Harb literally means “abode of war” or territory that is not under Islamic law and, if threatening to Islam, can be brought into Islam’s fold by jihad.In contrast, Dar al-Islam denotes territory under Islamic law, he said. Dar al-Aman or “abode of peace” is used to describe territory that is not under Islamic law but where Muslims can live in peace and harmony without interference in their practice of Islam.One example was India, Usman said.[source]



A major Muslim body has opposed Hindus being dubbed as `kafirs’ and pointed out that though the term does not have any derogatory connotations, it should be avoided to promote understanding between the two communities. “Strictly speaking, the word `kafir’ only means someone not belonging to Islam; but if its use hurts anyone the term should be avoided. Naumani said the idea of India as a hostile country had been part of the anti-British struggle during the Raj. “That concept is no longer relevant, it is now Dar-ul-Aman,” he said.


Explaining the change in the assessment of India by the Islamic school, Naumani said, “If Muslims get elected through a democratic process and can hold important positions, how can India become a hostile land.” He said Deoband had not yet received Singhal’s letter. “We will reply to it as and when it reaches us,” he said.


While reading this,Kislay Chandra came to my mind,he is the one I have seen who is very irritated with the word ‘Kaffir’. 🙂 .It is just an Arabic word that means non muslim.But that said,I know that some people (muslims) use this word every now and then and maybe thatz why others feel offended.And in that case,muslims should refrain from using such words that may hinder inter-faith relationships.My advice to muslims-don’t use this word unnecessarily and out of context..My advice to non muslims don’t take offence over a single word.Life is more beautiful than to be spoiled over a petty word.You don’t belive in Allah,do you? When you don’t believe in my God,aren’t you a disbeliever to me?Am I not a disbeliver to you? How complicated is that to understand and assimilate? I don’t know,some people take life and small stuff like this way too serious..Stretch your minds and hearts a little more-stop calling others kaffirs, and stop getting offended at a word..




Total Verses: 6

Revealed At: MAKKA



YUSUFALI: Say : O ye that reject Faith!

PICKTHAL: Say: O disbelievers!

SHAKIR: Say: O unbelievers!



YUSUFALI: I worship not that which ye worship,

PICKTHAL: I worship not that which ye worship;

SHAKIR: I do not serve that which you serve,



YUSUFALI: Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

PICKTHAL: Nor worship ye that which I worship.

SHAKIR: Nor do you serve Him Whom I serve:



YUSUFALI: And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,

PICKTHAL: And I shall not worship that which ye worship.

SHAKIR: Nor am I going to serve that which you serve,



YUSUFALI: Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

PICKTHAL: Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

SHAKIR: Nor are you going to serve Him Whom I serve:



YUSUFALI: To you be your Way, and to me mine.

PICKTHAL: Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.

SHAKIR: You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion.






Hindutva-ization/Gujarat-ization(or whatever it means) of my India..

Edited to add :This is not a post about Manglore pub attack.

Yeah,I am adding more to those endless posts on ‘Holy people preserving Indian culture’ floating around in blogoshpere.My friends have already put it in best words,that I have hardly anything better to say.I support you in the fight of individual freedom.Lets not make our nation another Saudi or Afghan..

Amrutha has a post on the topic,but the link she provided seemed disturbing.The author of that article justifies this incident as,‘The Rama Sainiks have done a good job in saving Hindu girls.  I am not saying this.  The masses in Mangalore stand by these so-called hooligans because they want to protect their women from the clutches of the oh-so-peaceful Islamic jehadis ” I was wondering when and how did islam or jiahdist or terrorism come in the frame..Reading more on the thread,I stumbled upon articles in OutlookIndia and IndiaToday,which persuaded me to have a look into the matter,from their viewpoint.Sharing some thoughts.

The incident of pub attack is not simply about moral policing or about political drama.See a few communal stirrings that the state (Karnataka ) has witnessed, especially in the coastal districts, after the BJP came to power last May.

  •  June 9, 2008: Temple affairs minister Krishnaiah Shetty issues circular to 34,000 temples to perform special puja for newly sworn-in CM. Order later modified after protests.
  • August 10, 2008: Karnataka Rakshana Vedike attacks a group of 35 people allegedly holding a ‘rave party’ at Manchanabele Dam
  • August 14, 2008: State-owned Mahabaleshwara Temple in Gokarna transferred to Ramachandrapur Math, known for its save-the-cow campaigns
  • August 29, 2008: The Public Instruction Department issues notices to all Christian institutions in the state to shut down to protest the violence against Christians in Orissa. Notice precursor to statewide attacks on churches.
  • September 14, 2008: With Mangalore as the epicentre, Sangh parivar activists attack Christian prayer halls and churches across state. More churches attacked three days later.
  • October 16, 2008: The largest-selling Kannada newspaper claims on its front page that conversions have gone up alarmingly after Sonia Gandhi-Congress came to power. Debates the issue on its Op-Ed page for over a month.
  •  October 30, 2008: Bajrang Dal activists attack two undertrials in Mangalore district sub jail; sixth such attack after its chief Mahendra Kumar’s arrest on September 20.
  • December 12, 2008: Aggressive posturing at Baba Budangiri by parivar leaders and Hindu pontiffs
  • December 27, 2008: Hoysala Sene attacks Fuga bar in Bangalore, alleges illegal activities
  • December 28, 2008: Bajrang Dal activists attack a bus ferrying students on a study tour to Mysore, saying girls and boys from different religions can’t travel together
  • January 6, 2009: B.V. Seetharam, editor of Mangalore-based newspaper Karavali Ale, who followed a strong anti-parivar editorial line, handcuffed and arrested in alleged extortion case. Prior to his arrest, parivar elements vandalise paper’s office.
  • January 7, 2009: Laddoos distributed in some schools across the state on Vaikunta Ekadashi. Congress demands biriyani should be distributed on Ramzan.
  • January 19, 2009: An arrested dacoit reportedly confesses links with radical Hindu groups and admits to carrying out the Hubli district court bombing before the May assembly elections
  • January 25, 2009: Sri Rama Sene activists attack pub in Mangalore and molest and beat up women
  • January 25, 2009: Bajrang Dal activists attack a private party in Mangalore
  • January 28, 2009: Muzrai department orders temples to perform special puja to ward off “ill-effects” of the solar eclipse [source]

Coming back to the recent incident of pub attack,BJP has distanced itself from Muthalik.But Outlook reports that in August 2007, when Yediyurappa was deputy CM in the H.D. Kumaraswamy cabinet, as many as 51 cases were withdrawn against parivar men, of which Mutalik is the first accused in many of these cases while VHP leader Praveen Togadia figures prominently in others.

Earlier,these guys were back of cows..They wanted the Centre to declare cow as a national animal and ban its slaughter. In March 2005, the outfit paraded naked a Muslim father and son in Adi Udupi in front of 500-600 people for allegedly “illegally trading in cows”.

However, the most common reason by far for a communal flare-up relates to the ‘mingling’ of youngsters from different communities. G. Rajashekar, co-author of The Dark Faces of Communalism, a book on communalism in Karnataka, says that according to data he has collected between May 2008 and now, there have been “14 recorded incidents of violence against Hindu girls for having been seen with either a Muslim or a Christian boy”. Prof Phaniraj, a rights activist teaching at a Manipal engineering college, says: “Since 1998, the frequency of communal incidents in the Dakshina Kannada area has increased.

The invariable plot for violence, he adds, is about a boy from a Muslim or Christian community ‘found being friendly’ with a Hindu girl, which leads to the self-styled protectors of the Hindu faith ‘intervening’ to ‘free’ the girl. Except intervening here means thrashing the boy. “We should remember that there was a sustained campaign against the Muslim community in Gujarat before Godhra happened,” says Phaniraj. Just prior to the Surathkal riots in 1998, a lot of pamphlets warning young Hindu women against going with Muslim boys were circulated.

The man who instigated the pub attack, Prasad Attavar, had in 2007 assaulted a Muslim boy at the Ideal Ice-cream Parlour in the heart of Mangalore for talking to a Hindu girl. More ghastly, however, was the 2005 incident in a Puttur cinema when two men (one Muslim) and two Hindu women working in an areca processing factory had gone to see a movie. Around 150 Bajrang Dal activists barged in, dragged the four out and assaulted them before handing them over to the police. As recently as six months ago, a Muslim and Hindu couple living together were forced to return to their native Gadag by parivar activists. “Intrusion into private spaces has become common,” says Phaniraj.

Besides the coastal districts, there has been an uneasy calm at other flashpoints like Baba Budangiri since 2004, where the Sangh parivar is hell-bent on converting the Sufi shrine with a rich tradition of religious syncretism into an exclusive Hindu pilgrimage centre. BJP leader H.N. Ananth Kumar had vowed to make it the ‘Ayodhya of Karnataka’. The Hubli Idgah Maidan issue had cropped up temporarily in September 2004 when Uma Bharati courted arrest and lost her chief ministership, but there has been little noise since then. The silence is eerie, however, and with a BJP government in power, pregnant. [source]


My dear friends,this incident is not about culture,but about religion..Its for you and me to decide on what  lessons do we learn from this incident.




On January 17, 2008, while addressing a rally in Udupi, Muthalik said: “It’s time for blasts. Malegaon is just a trailer. Every house should have a person like Pragya Singh. Every housewife will carry bombs now.”[Watch video ]..

Mangalore’s on-the-rampage Ram Sene is drawn from the ranks of the Bajrang Dal and the Shiv Sena :


What have you done so far,as to wipe out the menace of terrorism?

Nobody wants to speak about terrorism until and unless a blast occurs. Once there happens such a sad incident, we all get back to attacking mode. We slam the government, we slam the religion, and we slam each other until we are bored. Again we find bliss in escapism until the cycle repeats. Maybe it’s high time that we recognize that killing those individuals will not help us for getting rid of the menace. If it had been so, there should have been peace established long before..


To me, the process of banning organizations or detain individuals makes no much difference as in concern the bigger frame. Rather than just applying corticosteroids that deludes us to feel that wound has been healed, maybe we should look and act beyond the peripheral and go deep into the psyche of the people who join these terror groups. The scenario may seem simple, but to my understanding, there are complex links between the causes of terrorism and the role various actors play in promoting and combating them. Rather than just a group of people committing a crime, recent incidents tells us more of involvement from various strata ,may it be from the bureaucratic level or by those major players of our civil society and above all, the criminal elements.


I may not be wrong when I try to list down the reasons for the support of the killer ideology as related to exclusion, injustice, alienation,helplessness,despair,ignorance and prejudice. Terrorist leaders feed on there factors and exploit them whenever they find a sympathetic audience and thus gather support for their outfits. In today’s global village, injustice in one corner can easily be used to raise support in another part of the world. That maybe the reason why we see lot of people raising their voice against the plight of Gaza-ians and Darfur-ians,even when Kashmiri Pundits of their own land are under the same plight. It may not be that they don’t care about Pundits,but lines of correlation are drawn between one’s despair and people of Gaza or Iraq.They feed on what is being fed. To a hungry cow, it doesn’t matter whether Ram or Muhammed or Jacob is feeding him. If his needs are met, he will be ready to join that side which suits him more.


If gunning down these people had helped, we would have been in a state of bliss by now.If it was that easy or simple ,wonder why we are still struggling to deal with them? Unless you kill the idea that gives birth to such elements, the problem will continue to bother you time and time again. What have we(read Government) done in the regard? As of now all that done has alienated people from the main stream resulting in further aggression or feel of discrimination. Am I wrong?


To my understanding, the only solution for this menace is to support community-driven development and thereby build the capacity of communities to resist extreme religious and political ideologies-may it be jihadist or the hindutva stuff. Why not encourage interfaith dialogues between religious and community leaders so that there is more of transparency and tolerance. On a more important note it may do wonders of our media is regulated. I needn’t rant as to what is and how is our media delivering as of today. Above all, we should give greater attention to job opportunities and education for youth as to prevent the emergence of fragile segments of population. If people have their own business to mind and are rightly informed-may it be religious or political ideologies- and with the addition of a closely knit community relations, I wonder who on earth will bother to mind others business. Finally, rather than keeping eyes closed and be in bliss, we need to analyze how the concept of ‘Global Village’ affected our nation and look into facts and understand the trend of how the various strata of our society in general are functioning. I doubt if we can say that India is really shining..


Good day to all..Do share your thoughts..

p.s:My headline for the psot seems weird, can’t think of anything better ..

Is it just muslims/middle east natives in majority who are champions of child marriage??

The powerful Grand Mufti Abdul Aziz al-Sheikh said in a speech late on Monday that Islamic Sharia law allows the practice of pre-teen girls getting married, and that critics of the practice were doing the girls “an injustice,” reports said.


Duh.. I didn’t bother to waste my time ranting about this dumbness bcoz I felt that people like this mufti is not worth my time..Islam has no priesthood and unlike other religions that has a supreme position holder,as like Pope.So his opinion means nothing to me.This is a free world and he is free to make his rant.But it would have made more sense if he has had attributed this child marriage to his culture,rather than associating it to religion. Islam doesn’t say all this nonsense. Puberty occurs around 10-12 years of age…Does it require great lot of common sense to know that girls this young, rarely have the legal capacity or the personal agency to disobey their elders or to give or withhold their consen.tIf it is his country’s culture to marry off girls at young age,let him put forward it that way and not associate it to a faith followed by 1.5 billion people.. Ah,forget it,these people are their own agendas..Maybe he or his king wants to marry a child and add to the list of wives,and hence the rant..Sick people..


This is a two day old news,but today I felt like looking more into it,mostly in relation with our nation.Despite the laws prohibiting early marriages in India (Child Marriage Restraint Act of 1929 and its amendment in 1978), a large percentage of girls are still getting married at a young age. Statistics are elusive, but estimates are that 40 to 50 percent of marriages in India involve a girl under 18 or a boy under 21, the legal ages for marriage. In India, every third adolescent girl in the age group of 15-19 years is married. Around 57 percent of girls in India are married before the age of 18 years (Demographic Health Surveys 1996-2001).According to Unicef, 82 percent of girls in Rajasthan, where the practice is particularly widespread, are married by 18; 15 percent of girls in rural areas across the country are married before 13; and 52 percent of girls have their first pregnancy between 15 and 19.

 See the data as of 2006..




So,as widely conceived,middle east is not the area where child/early marriages occur the most,but in our own South Asia,particulary,Nepal and Bangladesh.I wonder why most people associate early marriages to a particular religion..I am sick of hearing that Islam is a pedophile cult..Duh,clean you nose before you poke at others nose.




A patriotic Indian has an interesting comment regarding this news..I wonder if he/she even read the news in complete as it is reffering to something in some far away village in Saudi,but he is ranting about Indian people are blind with hatred..

 apc,USA,says:Its amazing how tolerant our country and the government is. These so called religious thinkers live and breed in our country and are subject to the laws of our nation…If they do not agree with this they are free to leave this HINDU nation. We do not need them or their religious beliefs.

What does our government have to do with something happening in Saudi **Scratches head**




I hate Saudi Arabia ,they ruined Islam’s true spirit.

What is your comment on this comment?

Firstly, it doesn’t matter how many Muslims there are in India – they are only 12% of the Indian population…India is a Hindu majority country and NOT a Muslim majority country and I don’t think that Muslims should forget that they were all SUPPOSED to leave India in 1947. Muslims are living in India as a matter of priviledge and NOT as a matter of right. India is a nation that was born out of a partition which took place so that its Muslims could have their own country in the form of Pakistan and Bangladesh. So what moral right Muslims have to call themselves “Indian” needs to be highly questioned.

Secondly, there are Indian farmers who are so poor that they are committing suicide every day. There are Indians who are so poor that they are being forced to live on rat meat. There are female babies and female infants that are being killed every day because their parents think it is economic burden to have a girl….There are countless other problems and issues that India is having…All along we have a government which is giving money to its (unwanted) Muslims so that they can go on holiday to Saudi Arabia…That is just Plain SICK!

This is a comment I got fot the Hajj Subsidy post..Sorry for not specifying that..
Thank you all for your comments.Since both me and my  keyboard are sick,I’ll reply later..On-screen keybord sucks.Please bear with me Good day..Peace.